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Legacy Reviews from the Early Days

HIPERFIRE triggers are novel by design. The unique look follows the definition of functional design, “it looks that way for what it does.”

I have a confession, I don’t shoot, well at least rarely. I am an engineer by training and I think like one. I am rather analytical, but I’m also very creative and have a good imagination. When I designed that trigger for the .50 caliber semi-auto rifle, I knew what the mechanical requirements had to be to strike and dimple hard primers for 100 % reliable ignition as well as have a light, tactical touch for long range marksmanship. I designed the trigger in 2003. In 2011 I modified it for the AR-15 and started HIPERFIRE. The rest is history.

The HIPERTOUCH Genesis was originally sold in 2011 as the 24 SP: 2-4 lbs of adjustable trigger weight employing three different toggle springs; SP for small-pin installation, not for large-pin COLT version lowers. I packaged the first 100 “production” run of those triggers myself from individually machined parts. In 2012 they sold in larger volumes, made from machined, investment-cast parts and renamed the HIPERTOUCH 24.

At SHOT SHOW 2013 a few people felt the trigger and made some suggestions, like “reduce the creep!” Later in 2012 I was able to reduce the creep without affecting safety. And, a friend asked if I ever thought of adding a shoe. I asked, “What’s a shoe.” Hmm, never thought of that. Well, after some thought, design, and stress analysis I decided the the shoe would be red and made from plastic! Those thoughts resulted in two more triggers.

In 2013 at the Rock Castle Pro Am 3-Gun competition I introduced the HIPERTOUCH 24E (elite) and the 24C (competition). The latter had that red shoe thingy. Friday a.m. when competitors were scouting out the tents they unanimously commented privately to their friends something along these lines, “Another trigger company selling a gimmick [the red shoe].” A few purchased based on the feel experienced during trial pulls on some table demo lowers.

Well, after the morning stages, there was no more talk about the gimmicky red shoe, but, “Where’s that trigger.” The buzz had started all right. I sold out of the stock I brought with me. Since then, the story has not changed. In fact, I’ve had many people approach me to say that the gimmicky red shoe was genius. That red shoe changed 3-gun. Yes, red sells. But, for me the engineer, “It looks like what it does.” What does it do? If spreads the applied trigger force over a larger area on the finger than without it. Translation: same pull force, more area, means less felt pressure. The trigger is more responsive. Instead of pressing a dent in your trigger finger’s flesh, the trigger moves with seemingly much less effort.

I don’t know if any of this makes sense to you. We all have our own way of describing phenomena. I’ve linked below some early reviews of mostly triggers. Read how reviewers apply their analytics. Said in different ways, it boils down: WOW!

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2014 Genesis Elite Competition FOUR GUYS GUNS Article

2014 Competition SpartanTC81 Reviews Video

2014 Elite 8541 Tactical Article

2014 Competition WE LIKE SHOOTING Video Article

2014 Competition 3 GUN NATION Article

2014 Adams Arms COR Rifle DEFENSE REVIEW Video

2014 Ghost Gun Pistol Build SpartanTC Reviews Article

2014 Competition Genesis Elite BOOK OF THE AR-15 Article

2014 Competition TX Arms Article

2014 AR15 .22 LR Build MAJOR PANDEMIC Article

2014 HIPERSHOE Triggers MAJOR PANDEMIC Article

2015 Genesis JUNIOR SHOOTERS Article

2015 EDT LOADOUT ROOM Article

2015 Genesis GEAR REPORT Article

2015 Elite GEAR REPORT Article

2015 EDT PATROL TACTICAL Video

2015 Competition Lena Miculek Video

2015 Reflex GEAR REPORT Article

2015 Competition GEAR REPORT Article

2015 Custom 300 Blackout MAJOR PANDEMIC Article

2015 Boutique BLACK RIFLES SMALL ARMS REVIEW PART 1 Article

2015 Boutique BLACK RIFLES SMALL ARMS REVIEW PART 2 Article

2015 PRIVATE MILITARY CONTRACTOR Article

2015 HIPERTOUCH Triggers RANGE HOT Article

2015 ECLipse GUNS & AMMO Article

2015 ECLipse DEFENSE REVIEW Article

2015 Elite MAJOR PANDEMIC Article

2015 EDT HG DM MAJOR PANDEMIC Article

2015 ECLipse DM MAJOR PANDEMIC Article

2015 Best AR Triggers OUTDOOR HUB Article

2016 EDT DM Spotter Up Article

2016 Competition Lena Miculek’s Take Video

2016 EDT DM FIREARMS INSIDER Article

2017 Eclipse Spotter Up Article

2017 ECLipse Reflex PEW PEW TACTICAL Article

2018 Elite LOADOUT ROOM Article

2018 Best AR-15 Trigger GEAR-REPORT Article

2019 HIPERTOUCH Installation PEW PEW TACTICAL Article

2019 How-To AR-15 Lower Build PEW PEW TACTICAL Article

2023 Competition (update) GUN MAN Article

HIPERGRIP REALISTIC PREPAREDNESS Article

EDT HG REALISTIC PREPAREDNESS Article

Terry Bender

Creep is/does more than you think

Creep is Good. Blasphemy, you say!

Recently, we posted HIPERTECH #3, where we provided a lot of pull weight data scans for over 35 AR15/10 triggers that also highlighted the trigger creep.  We defined creep in that article but withheld our judgment as to whether creep is good or bad.

“Creep,” any creep is a dirty word among shooters.  No one wants to talk about it.  But, it’s essential to have creep, any creep, for the safe function of a semiautomatic firearm.  No creep (less than a hair-trigger) is very dangerous at any weight.  The question should not be how much creep, but what should it feel like.  No one has tackled answering that question.

So, manufacturers focus on weight alone, giving a single number.  We show in HIPERTECH Bulletin #3 that every trigger manufacturer’s trigger weight is different.  The maximum is different.  High at first, high in the middle of the pull, or high at the very end.  Clean break, rolling break, and so on.  The average is also different among them.  So how is trigger pull weight an adequate descriptor of what the shooter feels when he pulls the trigger?

HIPERFIRE, the manufacturer has come up with a metric that combines both pull weight and creep into a single parameter.  In engineering terms, it’s called work or energy.  For shooters, let’s call it effort, the effort the shooter must exert to drop the hammer.  This metric is a number calculated from the same pull weight data scans shown in HIPERTECH #3.  The calculation takes into account the entire weight, no matter how it changes during the pull, but also includes the whole creep, no matter its character.  See the figure below taken from the Bulletin.  This shows how the work, energy, effort number is calculated.  The units of measure are inch-pounds (in/lb).  We know numbers like that from engine torque, fastener lockdown torque, etc.  Well, now we can relate those units to AR triggers.

Figure showing the “area under the curve” or trigger pull energy/work.

You’ll have to read #4 is get all the details.  This new trigger parameter is very good at describing trigger control feel.   We can use it to rank how a trigger feels on the trigger finger as the shot is taken.

What Work, Energy, Effort Tells Us

  • A trigger with high weight and low creep will feel the same as a trigger with low weight and more creep.
  • Energy or work is the effort we exert when pulling a trigger. We don’t really feel the weight or creep independently.
  • Creep can be good or bad; it depends, so to speak.

So, how is creep good?

Ok, now you’re asking the right question.  We know lousy creep when we feel it, but who comments on “good” creep, except the case where the creep is “zero.”  We know zero creep is an impossibility.  Well, creep is good when it provides feedback telling us what’s happening when we pull the trigger.  This feedback tells us whether we like the trigger or not.

This has been HIPERFIRE’s take all along when designing good triggers, which is what our fans tell us, those fans who have tried a lot of different triggers and settled with us.  We created them based on their benefits to our shooting experience.

HIPERTECH #4 has a lot more info, and we rank over 35 triggers  based on pull energy and work.  It confirms what our fingers tells us in a parameter, more that weight or creep alone.  We’re getting closer to making a more complete assessment of what makes triggers good or not so good.  Stay tuned, we’re getting warmed up.

 

Terry Bender